Verse-by-Verse Bible Commentary

2 Samuel 8:16

Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army, and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder.
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Concordances:
Nave's Topical Bible - Ahilud;   Armies;   Cabinet;   David;   Jehoshaphat;   Joab;   King;   Nepotism;   Officer;   Thompson Chain Reference - Jehoshaphat;   Recorder;   Torrey's Topical Textbook - Kings;  
Dictionaries:
American Tract Society Bible Dictionary - Philistines;   Recorder;   Bridgeway Bible Dictionary - Jehoshaphat;   Easton Bible Dictionary - King;   Recorder;   Fausset Bible Dictionary - Ahilud;   Education;   Jehoshaphat;   King;   Recorder;   Samuel, the Books of;   Holman Bible Dictionary - Ahilud;   Jehoshaphat;   King, Kingship;   Occupations and Professions in the Bible;   Recorder;   Samuel, Books of;   Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Ahilud;   Government;   Jehoshaphat;   Joab;   King;   Samuel, Books of;   Shavsha;   Writing;   Morrish Bible Dictionary - Ahilud ;   Jehoshaphat ;   Recorder;   Samuel, Second Book of;   The Hawker's Poor Man's Concordance And Dictionary - Remembrancer;   Smith Bible Dictionary - Ahi'lud;   Jehosh'aphat;   Recorder,;  
Encyclopedias:
Condensed Biblical Cyclopedia - Hebrew Monarchy, the;   International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Ahilud;   David;   God, Names of;   Government;   Jehoshaphat (1);   King;   Recorder;   Remember;   Shavsha;   Solomon;   The Jewish Encyclopedia - Historiography;   Joab;   King;   Libraries;  

Adam Clarke Commentary

Joab - was over the host - General and commander-in-chief over all the army.

Ahilud - recorder - מזכיר mazkir, remembrancer; one who kept a strict journal of all the proceedings of the king and operations of his army; a chronicler. Or, remembrancer, or, writer of chronicles.

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Clarke, Adam. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "The Adam Clarke Commentary". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/2-samuel-8.html. 1832.

John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host,.... Which was not only owing to his relation to David, being his sister's son, but to his promise that whoever smote the Jebusites first should be chief and captain; that is, should have the command of the army under him; this Joab did; and so was entitled to this office, and was put into it, and continued in it, 1 Chronicles 11:6,

and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder; of memorable events, who kept a diary of whatsoever remarkable happened, which were digested into a chronicle, history, or annals; see Esther 6:1; so the Targum, he"was appointed over the memorials;'or book of memorials, as Kimchi interprets it; that is, to take care of it, and see that everything worthy of notice was inserted in it; or was "remembrancer"F7מזכיר "commemorans", Montanus; "commemorator", Syr. Ar. "memorans, sive reducens in memoriam", Vatablus. ; one that put the king in mind what was to be done every day, or in certain cases, and so R. Isaiah explains it, the king's counsellor; some take him to be chancellor, as Luther and othersF8Vid. Beckium in Targ. 1 Chron. xviii. 15. .

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Gill, John. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/geb/2-samuel-8.html. 1999.

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible

was over the host — by virtue of a special promise (2 Samuel 5:8).

recorder — historiographer or daily annalist, an office of great trust and importance in Eastern countries.

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Jamieson, Robert, D.D.; Fausset, A. R.; Brown, David. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/jfb/2-samuel-8.html. 1871-8.

Keil & Delitzsch Old Testament Commentary

The chief ministers were the following: - Joab (see at 2 Samuel 2:18) was “over the army,” i.e., commander-in-chief. Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud, of whom nothing further is known, was mazcir , chancellor; not merely the national annalist, according to the Septuagint and Vulgate ( ἐπὶ τῶν ὑπομνημάτην, ὑπομνηματόγραφος ; a commentariis ), i.e., the recorder of the most important incidents and affairs of the nation, but an officer resembling the magister memoriae of the later Romans, or the waka nuvis of the Persian court, who keeps a record of everything that takes place around the king, furnishes him with an account of all that occurs in the kingdom, places his visé upon all the king's commands, and keeps a special protocol of all these things (vid., Chardin, Voyages v. p. 258, and Paulsen, Regierung der Morgenländer, pp. 279-80).

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Keil, Carl Friedrich & Delitzsch, Franz. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/kdo/2-samuel-8.html. 1854-1889.

Wesley's Explanatory Notes

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

Recorder — The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them.

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Wesley, John. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/wen/2-samuel-8.html. 1765.

John Trapp Complete Commentary

2 Samuel 8:16 And Joab the son of Zeruiah [was] over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud [was] recorder;

Ver. 16. Was over the host.] This honour he had purchased by his valour, [1 Chronicles 11:6] but forfeited by his blood-guiltiness.

And Jehoshaphat … was recorder.] Or, Chancellor of the kingdom, or chief chronicler.

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Trapp, John. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". John Trapp Complete Commentary. https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/jtc/2-samuel-8.html. 1865-1868.

Thomas Coke Commentary on the Holy Bible

2 Samuel 8:16. Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder i.e. as is generally believed, remembrancer, or writer of chronicles: an employment of no mean estimation in the Eastern world, where it was customary with kings to keep daily registers of all the transactions of their reign; and a trust, which whoever discharged efficiently must be let into the true springs and secrets of action, and consequently must be received into the inmost confidence. The sacred Writer no sooner gives us an account of David's executing judgment and justice, but he immediately adds a lift of the great officers then employed by him; for a principal part of a king's wisdom, as well as of his felicity, consists in the choice of able ministers, to discharge the great offices of the state.

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Coke, Thomas. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". Thomas Coke Commentary on the Holy Bible. https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/tcc/2-samuel-8.html. 1801-1803.

Matthew Poole's English Annotations
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Joab having doubtless declared his repentance for his former crimes, and having done eminent service for his country, and having received the chief command by virtue of David’s promise and contract, 2 Samuel 5:8, was still continued in his place.

Recorder; either, first, The writer of chronicles. But it is not likely he would have been put among the great officers of state and church. Or, secondly, The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them. Or, thirdly, The king’s counsellor, as Ahithophel is called, 2 Samuel 15:12 1 Chronicles 27:33, who was to bring things of moment to the king’s mind and remembrance, and to admonish him from time to time of things fit to be done. See 1 Kings 4:3 2 Kings 18:18.

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Poole, Matthew, "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible. https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/mpc/2-samuel-8.html. 1685.

Whedon's Commentary on the Bible

DAVID’S OFFICIALS, 2 Samuel 8:15-18.

16.Joab — See notes on 2 Samuel 2:13; 2 Samuel 2:18.

Jehoshaphat’ recorder — This was an officer of high rank in the ancient Eastern courts, whose especial duty was to preserve such records as are referred to in Ezra 6:1; Esther 6:1. He kept an accurate record of all the items of importance that occurred in the kingdom.

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Whedon, Daniel. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "Whedon's Commentary on the Bible". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/whe/2-samuel-8.html. 1874-1909.

Joseph Benson's Commentary of the Old and New Testaments

2 Samuel 8:16. Jehoshaphat was recorder — That is, the remembrancer, or writer of chronicles, as is generally thought; “an employment,” says Dr. Delaney, “of no mean estimation in the eastern world, where it was customary with kings to keep daily registers of all the transactions of their reigns; and a trust which, whosoever discharged to purpose, must be let into the true springs and secrets of action; and, consequently, must be received into the utmost confidence.” Some, however, rather suppose, that by the recorder, the treasurer is intended, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them.

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Benson, Joseph. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". Joseph Benson's Commentary. https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/rbc/2-samuel-8.html. 1857.

George Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary

Sarvia, sister of David, 1 Paralipomenon ii. 16. --- Army. Joab had acquired such influence over it, that his power was formidable even to David. He was a great warrior, and had contributed more than any other person to establish the throne of his uncle; but he was devoid of justice, and not much unlike Achilles. Jura negat sibi nata, nihil non arrogat armis. (Horace)

(Grotius) --- Recorder, or chancellor. (Challoner) --- A commentariis. (Aquila) --- "Remembrancer," (Haydock) or the person who kept a journal of all memorable transactions. The kings of Persia employed people to keep such journals, 1 Esdras iv. 15., and Esther vi. 1. (Josephus, [Antiquities?] xi. 2.) --- The power of these writers was very great, Judges v. 14., and 4 Kings xviii. 18. (Calmet) --- Reference is often made to their "words of days." They had also to present petitions and memorials from the people. (Menochius)

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Haydock, George Leo. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "George Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/hcc/2-samuel-8.html. 1859.

E.W. Bullinger's Companion Bible Notes

recorder = remembrancer.

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Bullinger, Ethelbert William. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "E.W. Bullinger's Companion bible Notes". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/bul/2-samuel-8.html. 1909-1922.

Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible - Unabridged

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;

Joab ... was over the host - by virtue of a special promise (2 Samuel 5:8). Recorder - historiographer or daily annalist, whose duty it was to register current events of interest and importance in the kings' reigns-an office of great trust and importance in Eastern countries (Herodotus b. 6:, ch. 100:; b. 7:, ch. 9; Morier's 'Persia').

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Jamieson, Robert, D.D.; Fausset, A. R.; Brown, David. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible - Unabridged". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/jfu/2-samuel-8.html. 1871-8.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

(16) Was recorder.—This was a different office from that of “the scribe” (filled by Seraiah), and appears from 2 Kings 18:18-37; 2 Chronicles 34:8, to have been one of considerable importance. (Comp. also Esther 6:1.) His duty is supposed to have been something like that of the modern “chancellor,” and he not only registered the king’s decrees, but was his adviser. The same person continued to fill the office in the early years of Solomon’s reign (1 Kings 4:3).

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Ellicott, Charles John. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/ebc/2-samuel-8.html. 1905.

Treasury of Scripture Knowledge

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host; and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder;
Joab
19:13; 20:23; 1 Chronicles 11:6; 18:15-17
Jehoshaphat
1 Kings 4:3
recorder
or, remembrancer, or writer of chronicles.
Reciprocal: 2 Samuel 2:13 - Joab;  2 Samuel 20:7 - General2 Samuel 24:2 - Joab;  1 Kings 1:7 - Joab;  2 Kings 18:18 - the recorder;  2 Chronicles 34:8 - recorder;  Isaiah 36:3 - Shebna

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Torrey, R. A. "Commentary on 2 Samuel 8:16". "The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge". https://beta.studylight.org/commentaries/tsk/2-samuel-8.html.